No denial on adoption deal
The Rees Government won’t deny a reported deal with Rev Fred Nile to scuttle same-sex adoption reforms in exchange for passing key legislation through the upper house.
Nile confirmed he met with Premier Nathan Rees this month and lobbied against gay law reform. Rees, however, did not. The premier doesn’t comment on private meetings, the Premier’s spokeswoman told Sydney Star Observer.
Community Services minister Linda Burney, who is in favour of the reforms, secured an upper house inquiry into the issue.
That inquiry is underway. We are following due process and the minister hopes to see the final report soon, Burney’s spokeswoman said. She declined to comment on a deal with Nile.
The final report on same-sex adoption was delayed awaiting an appeal after the Administrative Decisions Tribunal found Wesley Mission had discriminated against same-sex foster parents.
Oliver – “Hello! A straight male cat owner probably would only feed it and keep it outside in the cold”
Your correct !!!! Thanks Oliver I needed a laugh :)
James – “no, I’d rather a child going to a man and a woman. There’s plenty of them out there!”
Well Barnardos supports same-sex adoption as they have publicly spoken there support for it. Also the 2000 USA Census reports 33% of female same-sex couple households and 22% of male same-sex couple households already have at least one child under the age of 18 living at home. According to the American Psychological Association Policy Statement on Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children, “there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation impairs psychological functioning”. James the American Psychological Association supports my claims, check out there website here: http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/policy/parents.html
James, I am a Gay male with a cat. Its fed well, always purring and lives like a princess. Would it make a difference if I was a straight male. Hello! A straight male cat owner probably would only feed it and keep it outside in the cold.
Um James, You really like to Rub it in dont you! If a person is financially secure and wants to adopt then whats to say they cant. Theres pleanty of abandoned Kids around the world looking for a comfortable home. Yes, surprise, abandoned by their biological “Heterosexual” parents.
Jason – no, I’d rather a child going to a man and a woman. There’s plenty of them out there!
Please realise that adoption also refers to “known” adoption.
This is where the children have been raised by both parents, but are biologically related to only one parent.
For example, if the parents form a relationship when one parent has a child aged 2 from a previous relationship.
This is very common in the straight world. Many of you will have friends who refer to their “step father” or “step mother” for example. This step parent must apply to adopt their non biological child in order to be legally responsible for them.
It is the CHILD who actually BENEFITS (in the cases of medical treatment or inheritance or break up of the relationship maintenance is payable).
I ask politicians from all sides, including Fred Nile, to approve “known” adoption at least.
(If you don’t want to approve unknown adoption, where the children are previously not known the parents, then so be it, but known adoption will help secure the financial future of the children involved.)
Id hate to think what kind of parent James would be
James – “Same-sex adoption? WTF?? So two gay guys can handle raising kids better than a man and a woman?”
So I assume James that you would rather have a child living in an orphange than living with a same-sex couple ? James if same-sex adoption is legalised its not as simple as just walking into an orphanage and taking home a child, the process can take months with backround checks etc. Even married hetrosexual couples have been declined as potential adoptive parents as they were not suitable.
The real people affected here are lesbian couples,where the non birth mother has come to the relationship after the child is born. Those children have no security if the birth mother dies.
The number of children given up for adoption is less than two dozen every year.
James, James your are boring us to tears – I guess you must be a typical straight man who has NOT got a clue about children at all. The NSW adoption Act 200 No 75 is the only piece of bad discriminatory and out-dated legislation in NSW (currently under-going and inquiry).
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/PARLMENT/committee.nsf/0/9560123A64B83B8DCA2575130016A0CA
Number 1: gay men and lesbians DO have children;
Number 2: 10 percent of gay man and up to 20 percent of lesbians have children
Number 3: The Adoption Act 2000 No 75 very clearly under the “dictonary section” discriminates against gay men and lesbians with there are same-sex partners (single gay men and lesbians CAN adopt though). Single people and opposite-sex de facto cpouples have been allowed to adopt children since this Act was introduced in 2000. In 1997, there was a recommendation with the NSW Law Reform Commission to include singles and de facto couples (both opposte-sex and same-sex). Prior to the 2000 Act – there was the 1967 Act which ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY had married couples who were allowed to adopt children.
Some examples in the dictionary are:
“couple” means a man and a woman who:
(a) are married, or
(b) have a de facto relationship.
de facto relationship” means the relationship between a man and a woman who live together as husband and wife on a bona fide domestic basis although not married to one another.
“spouse” of a person means:
(a) a person to whom the person is married, or
(b) a person of the opposite sex with whom the person has a de facto relationship of at least 3 years’ duration.
Note: “Married” is defined elsewhere in this Dictionary.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/aa2000107/sch99.html
Adoption applies to children who have no parents or whose parents are incapable of caring for their child or will no longer care for the child.
I assume that orphaned children would prefer to live with a family as part of a family rather than live at an orphanage.
The fact that orphanages exist in our society is evidence that not enough heterosexual couples want to adopt a child.
I assume that the reason the authorities will not allow same sex couples to adopt a child is because those authorities are staffed by people who hold the belief that the same sex couple would sexually abuse the child if they granted the adoption to a same sex couple.
The sexual abuse of orphans and other children by their legal guardians, in the form of parents, teachers, orphanage staff and clerics is well documented. When knowledge of the sexual abuse is discovered the individuals suspected of committing the offences are tried by a court and if found guilty a penalty is applied. The organisations at which the offences occurred, such as schools and orphanages are allowed to continue to operate and be responsible for the care and safety of children.
If the authorities responsible for granting the adoption of children exclude same sex couples from adopting children because those authorities assume that the same sex couple will sexually assault those children if the adoption is granted, then why don’t those same authorities prohibit organisations and professions with a history of convictions for child sexual assault from having the responsibility for the care and safety of children.
Those organisations would be schools and orphanages at which the offence of child sexual assault has occurred and those professions would be those professions, the members of which have been convicted of sexually assaulting children in their care while acting in their professions, such as teachers, doctors and clerics.
Why don’t the authorities treat same sex couples who want to adopt children the same way that they treat heterosexual couples, teachers, orphanage staff, doctors and clerics?
Same-sex adoption? WTF?? So two gay guys can handle raising kids better than a man and a woman?
Typical – this is the SAME EXACT THING happening down here in Vic as well.